[cryptography] Gmail and SSL

Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.org
Fri Dec 14 10:51:22 EST 2012

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From: Randy <nanog at afxr.net>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:47:03 -0600
To: NANOG list <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Gmail and SSL
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I'm hoping to reach out to google's gmail engineers with this message,
Today I noticed that for the past 3 days, email messages from my personal 
website's pop3 were not being received into my gmail inbox. Naturally, I 
figured that my pop3 service was down, but after some checking, every thing 
was working OK. I then checked gmail settings, and noticed some error.
It explained that google is no longer accepting self signed ssl  
certificates. It claims that this change will "offer[s] a higher level of 
security to better protect your information".
I don't believe that this change offers better security. In fact it is now 
unsecured - I am unable to use ssl with gmail, I have had to select the 
plain-text pop3 option.

I don't have hundreds of dollars to get my ssl certificates signed, and to 
top it off, gmail never notified me of an error with fetching my mail. How 
many of email accounts trying to grab mail are failing now? I bet 
thousands, as a self signed certificate is a valid way of encrypting the 

Please google, remove this requirement.


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