[cryptography] Can we move to a forum, please?

Matt Ryanczak ryanczak at gmail.com
Wed Dec 25 00:02:50 EST 2013

+1. passive listener here. please stick with email!

On 12/24/13, 4:58 PM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
> On 24 Dec 2013 at 20:06, Raymond Burkholder wrote:
>>> Subject: [cryptography] Can we move to a forum, please?
>>> Thoughts?
>> If this moved to a forum, I'd probably not read it.  I receive messages
>> from
>> many different services, and if I had to remember to go online to read
>> messages, it wouldn't happen.  
> I agree -- I don't have the time or care to go visit dozens of websites 
> each day, just to check if there's any activity in THIS forum or THAT 
> one.  I find it very convenient having it all come to me.
>> With the current system, messages appear in my inbox with messages
>> from
>> other list exchanges.  It provides a simple central mechanism for
>> reading
>> and responding to the various messages I receive.
> Also, for me, I'm on many mailing lists that are *related* and I sort 
> those into _single_ folders.   So all of my 'security' stuff goes into 
> one place, all of the 'craft/hobby' lists are collected in a separate 
> place, etc.  The fact that there are six hobby lists is irrelevant: they 
> all end up just in my 'hobby' folder -- I don't have to visit six sites.
> In fact, this is a case in point: there are two cryptography lists that 
> are similar but different.  I filter them both into the same folder [and 
> my only quandry is if I want to post I need to pick "to which", but I 
> never have to do anything to follow both effortlessly].
>> On the other hand, if the forum emailed messages with a 'reply link'
>> as
>> messages are posted, that would be an acceptable alternative.  
> Not quite: Most forums postings don't any context -- they just expect 
> that their post will "follow next" in the forum [even when that's not 
> true!] and so they just type away.  So if you get just an email message, 
> it'll be VERY cryptic trying to piece together what's going on, 
> especially if a single topic has two discussion threads interweaving 
> within in.
> I haven't seen a forum that lets you "save" messages -- if the new PHPbb 
> does that'd be great.   PHPbb has never been very good at keeping track 
> of what you've seen and what you haven't: if you visit the forum and only 
> read some of the new posts, you generally won't get a second [easy] 
> chance to find it [there's no mechanism I've seen for the equivalent of 
> leaving something unread in your list-folder to be dealt with later].  Do 
> forums let you 'print' messages?  Can you 'forward' messages?   Can you 
> 'save/archive' threads that are particularly interesting?
> I happen to not much like the format of most online forums.... other folk 
> love them.  I'm not impressed with 'BBcodes' and the few-score emoticons 
> it allows.   I know some peolple really like that, but not me.
> My vote is to stay as an email list.
>    /Bernie\

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