[cryptography] Can we move to a forum, please?

Greg greg at kinostudios.com
Wed Dec 25 12:48:32 EST 2013

Hmm, interesting, thanks for sharing that Bryan! :-)

Looks like the list has spoken, and the answer seems to be a resounding "No!"


Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.

On Dec 25, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Bryan Bishop <kanzure at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Greg <greg at kinostudios.com> wrote:
>> I've used both phpBB and simplemachines, and far prefer the latter for its simpler configuration, administration, and what seem like superior spam-fighting capabilities.
> I have seen similar requests on other mailing lists, including those
> running mailman . On the DIYbio mailing list (about ~3000 users), a
> handful of individuals had the idea that they could just ask the
> mailing list to be shut down and all the content ported to a forum. So
> I challenged one of them to write a mail2forum gateway. There is no
> particular reason why a forum couldn't also function as a mailing list
> (as Google Groups is pathetically trying to do), with email replies to
> threads etc. The current "get notified by email" features aren't the
> same thing.
> Jake Stew <jakestew at mail.com> wrote a mail2forum gateway for phpBB and
> began using it with the diybio mailing list. What's interesting is
> that nobody used it except for him, not even the others who were
> wanting a forum in the first place. I don't really have an opinion on
> this result, but it's sort of funny, and worth sharing, so there you
> go. Maybe bug him for the phpBB plugin and start using it if you
> really prefer phpBB or ikonboard or HyperVBulletin or whatever the
> latest malware is called.
> What's particularly funny is that Google Groups was trying to pivot
> their content into a forum (and at the same time murdering all of
> their USENET content, I guess they don't have thorough automatic
> tests...). You can see it all over their UI because of their
> half-assed attempt to convert from using the word "groups" to
> "forums". I think in part this was an attempt to convince users to use
> the web UI as a forum, but when people say forum what they really mean
> is something like Infopop UBB and anything from 1998-2004 that matches
> the same pattern.
> - Bryan
> http://heybryan.org/
> 1 512 203 0507

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