[cryptography] another cert failure

Jeffrey Walton noloader at gmail.com
Mon Jan 7 05:54:00 EST 2013

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:15 AM, ianG <iang at iang.org> wrote:
> On 7/01/13 06:48 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Ryan Hurst <ryan.hurst at globalsign.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> ....
> Yeah.  Little known fact is that Mozilla maintains confidential discussions
> with the CAs.  The "open group" is basically theater, it has been totally
> owned by the CAs for many years.  Mozilla routinely reports no meetings,
> minutes, positions, representations, agreements, NDAs, etc.  Open
> contributors have been punching blind in a roman circus since the end of the
> first policy, which is why the open policy group has not really achieved as
> much as the advertisement claims.
This is bad. Its the same incestuous relationship carved by, for
example, Enron and Arthur Andersen or Wall Street and the Rating

Does anyone expect something other than failure from the system?


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